chinese symbols and the genesis account

[xcept2010]

http://bibleprobe.com/chinese.htm

The Chinese language is quite interesting since the characters when put together create more complex words based upon smaller pictures being put together creating a story into a single word.

I found this to be some more proof of the validity of the Word of God. For if all people spoke one language up until the tower of Babel, then this fits very well within these guidelines that such a record would exist.

Please note the Chinese also have a character called shang ti. For the one monotheistic God.

This is a continuation from the confucianism discussion with Steen.

[steenkh]

Originally Posted by xcept2010

I found this to be some more proof of the validity of the Word of God. For if all people spoke one language up until the tower of Babel, then this fits very well within these guidelines that such a record would exist.

The fact that you can combine Chinese characters to produce more complex characters is evidence that everybody spoke a single language at one point in time? You lost me there.

[xcept2010]

Yes I could see that I lost you there.

Sorry you would've had to look at the link. There are many examples. Such as create, which is made by combining the words breath, dust, life, talk, walk. So create tells the story of creation of Adam.

Life breathed into dust was talking and walking. Create.

There are pictorial references on the link as well.

[steenkh]

Originally Posted by xcept2010

Sorry you would've had to look at the link.

OK, now I did.

There are many examples. Such as create, which is made by combining the words breath, dust, life, talk, walk. So create tells the story of creation of Adam.

So you are saying that the Hebrews lifted the creation myth from the Chinese?

[xcept2010]

No, I'm saying exactly what the Bible is saying. There was one language prior to the Tower of Bbel. Which would make sense considering it was just Noah and his family and they would've obviously spoke the same language. If you look very seriously into it. Genesis chapter 1 through 11 is devoid of race, just man. There is no Hebrew or otherwise in it.

[steenkh]

Originally Posted by xcept2010

No, I'm saying exactly what the Bible is saying. There was one language prior to the Tower of Bbel. Which would make sense considering it was just Noah and his family and they would've obviously spoke the same language.

That is true. And this is also what linguists assume, except that they do not think that all languages exploded into existence a relatively short time ago.

[xcept2010]

Originally Posted by steenkh

That is true. And this is also what linguists assume, except that they do not think that all languages exploded into existence a relatively short time ago.

Of course they don't. That might actually lead them to accept the Biblical worldview.
Below is a secular link.
http://www.historyworld.net/wrldhis/...historyid=ab13

Origins of language The origins of human language will perhaps remain for ever obscure.

what?? Really? They don't know the origin? That's funny because the Bible seems to know.

By contrast the origin of individual languages has been the subject of very precise study over the past two centuries

so all this study and they cannot figure out an origin.

There are about 5000 languages spoken in the world today (a third of them in Africa), but scholars group them together into relatively few families - probably ess than twenty.

further confirming the account of the Tower of Babel.

Languages are linked to each other by shared words or sounds less than twenty. Languages are linked to each other by shared words or sounds or grammatical constructions. The theory is that the members of each linguistic group have descended from one language, a common ancestor.

wh-wh-what? They all descended from one language? You mean the different developing races of neandertals didn't come up with their own languages? How did they all come up with one language? So there is no languageless societies? All languages are equally complex. So how did that happen?

In many cases that original language is judged by the experts to have been spoken in surprisingly recent times - as little as a few thousand years ago

recent times... not like say 50,000 years ago? More like 5000 years ago. Very interesting.

Linguistic groups: from 3000 BC
The most widespread group of languages today is the Indo-European, spoken by half the world's population. This entire group, ranging from Hindi and Persian to Norwegian and English, is believed to descend from the language of a tribe of nomads roaming the plains of eastern Europe and western Asia (in modern term nomads roaming the plains of eastern Europe and western Asia (in modern term centring on the Ukraine) as recently as about 3000 BC From about 2000 BC people speaking Indo-European languages begin to spread through Europe, eventually reaching the Atlantic coast and the northern shores of the Mediterranean. They also penetrate far into Asia - occupying the Iranian plateau and much of India.

all makes sense in light of Biblical record to me.

[MartinRuager]

Originally Posted by What Xcept2010 quoted from History World

Languages are linked to each other by shared words or sounds less than twenty. Languages are linked to each other by shared words or sounds or grammatical constructions. The theory is that the members of each linguistic group have descended from one language, a common ancestor.

Originally Posted by What History World really wrote

There are about 5000 languages spoken in the world today (a third of them in Africa), but scholars group them together into relatively few families - probably less than twenty. Languages are linked to each other by shared words or sounds or grammatical constructions. The theory is that the members of each linguistic group have descended from one language, a common ancestor.

What they are saying is that there are basically 20... TWENTY proto-languages and that all the 5000 languages spoken in the world today are descendant from them.

EACH OF THE TWENTY LINGUISTIC GROUPS HAVE DESCENDE FROM TWENTY INDIVIDUAL LANGUAGES. NOT ONE SINGLE LANGUAGE BUT FROM TWENTY SEPARATE ONES.

[MartinRuager]

Isn't it ironic how the authors of History World use evolution as a model for how languages develope while you quotemine and edit their texts so that their explanations fit what you want to believe.

[xcept2010]

Originally Posted by MartinRuager

Isn't it ironic how the authors of History World use evolution as a model for how languages develope while you quotemine and edit their texts so that their explanations fit what you want to believe.

yes isn't that ironoic. Why? Does that ruffle your tailfeathers?
One group says something came about one way and another says different. How amazing. The evidence is all the same. Its how we interpret the facts. A person comes in with certain presuppositions before reviewing the evidence. So it doesn't surprise me.


Nd on a sidenote, with other topics concerning science. Christians are against science or the result, but the assumptions made by the evidence. Its all about presuppositions