A simple question to all you Christians out there

[MartinRuager]

Originally Posted by xcept2010

good! because I do not like or endorse the intelligent design movement either.

YAY

You are a creationist by your own admission.

The Dover trial concluded as mentioned in my above post that ID and creationism is the same thing. According to you, a fetus is a human being because some judge and jury decided that it is so. Be the same logic when the judge and jury at the Dover trial decided that intelligent design and creationism is the same thing... It is so.

You feverently argue that the earth was created in 6 literal 24 hour days and that Genesis is a truthful account of how the world and man came to be. You have on numerous occasions posted links to YT vids, articles and papers that you claimed to lend scientific credence to creationism/ID.

[steenkh]

Originally Posted by xcept2010

good! because I do not like or endorse the intelligent design movement either.

Just once in a while, you surprise me ...

[xcept2010]

Originally Posted by MartinRuager

You are a creationist by your own admission.

The Dover trial concluded as mentioned in my above post that ID and creationism is the same thing. According to you, a fetus is a human being because some judge and jury decided that it is so. Be the same logic when the judge and jury at the Dover trial decided that intelligent design and creationism is the same thing... It is so.

You feverently argue that the earth was created in 6 literal 24 hour days and that Genesis is a truthful account of how the world and man came to be. You have on numerous occasions posted links to YT vids, articles and papers that you claimed to lend scientific credence to creationism/ID.

Intelligent design doesn't speak of a loving creator at all. It talks about things being started by an intelligent being then left alone so to speak.
Not creation at all actually.
And yes I believe and know that God created all in 6 literal days.
Thank you for clarifying that to the rest of your peers.

[countingteeth]

Originally Posted by xcept2010

John jumped in the womb when Christ was born, and John was merely the second trimester. So I would say that qualifies

I have two questions.

a.) Since when is 3-6 months 1 month
b.) Most fetus's start kicking in the second trimester. How did they know which kick was when jesus was born ?

[xcept2010]

Originally Posted by countingteeth

I have two questions.

a.) Since when is 3-6 months 1 month
b.) Most fetus's start kicking in the second trimester. How did they know which kick was when jesus was born ?

Jesus knows

[peteresther]

Originally Posted by xcept2010

California proved that a baby is a human with rights when Scott Peterson was convicted of two murders, his wife, and her unborn child.

case closed.

This is a very clever point, and I hope it doesn't go unnoticed! Well done xcept for pointing it out! Yes, it was murder to kill the unborn baby! The extra ghastly thing is that it was his own baby!

[steenkh]

Originally Posted by peteresther

This is a very clever point, and I hope it doesn't go unnoticed! Well done xcept for pointing it out! Yes, it was murder to kill the unborn baby! The extra ghastly thing is that it was his own baby!

Why is that a clever point? The fact that some states or countries have laws about this that others have not only serves to illustrate the point that it is a matter of decision when a foetus is declared a human individual. Such laws can changed at will.

Besides there is a difference between the killing of an unborn baby and an abortion. In one case it is done without the consent of the mother, and in the other it is not.

[peteresther]

Originally Posted by steenkh

Why is that a clever point? The fact that some states or countries have laws about this that others have not only serves to illustrate the point that it is a matter of decision when a foetus is declared a human individual. Such laws can changed at will.

Besides there is a difference between the killing of an unborn baby and an abortion. In one case it is done without the consent of the mother, and in the other it is not.

I note your points. It is still a fact that an unborn foetus has been given the status of a human being though, in a court of law. That is why I said it was a clever point to point out!

[countingteeth]

Originally Posted by peteresther

I note your points. It is still a fact that an unborn foetus has been given the status of a human being though, in a court of law. That is why I said it was a clever point to point out!

Good, then you also accept Roe vs Wade

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roe_v._Wade

[xcept2010]

Originally Posted by countingteeth

Good, then you also accept Roe vs Wade

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roe_v._Wade

I accept Roe V. Wade as law, however I disagree with it. Which is why things such as partial birth abortion was changed. Because others know it to be wrong as well.

The mother of a child gets a choice at the time of intercourse. After that, the child has a right to live.

If you are speeding down the freeway, that is your choice. When you get ticketed, it's no longer your choice.