Ten Commandments Purpose

[peteresther]

Originally Posted by Martin

Where do you get that notion from?

There was no salvation in the Old Testament (except for the very newest books, like Daniel). When people died, they died. End of story.

It has been taught to me like this by various preachers I trust!

I have no chapters and verses I am ashamed to admit (maily because I do not read the OT, not something I am proud of either...but the NT is what I am concentrating on...)

However, when Jesus told that story of Lazarus and the rich man, he was still operating in the OT, by telling the story of Abraham's bosom and the gulf between it and the place of torment. Can this count for now? (Not as far as the keeping of the 600 odd laws for salvation, but as there being life after death for OT times.)

If you would like to see scriptural support for the Jews keeping the law for salvation, I would probably point to the book of Romans, where Paul goes to great lengths to tell the Jewish people that keeping the law does not offer salvation. This makes me think that they thought keeping the law did bring salvation...

Where in the Pentateuch do you see Moses promising that you will go to Heaven if you follow the 613 commandments?

Well, like I said...not really read by me, but I am sure the OT, somewhere does mention this several times...

What a weird thing to say, "these laws are now written in humans heart". Are you saying that human hearts have been re-programmed recently? And does that go for atheists, Hindus, Buddhists and Pikkiwokiists, as well?

this applies only to the Pikkiwokiists! (Joke)

All I know is that most people, the majority of people know in their conscienses (tsk, sp, no spell check in the reply boxes, and I am too lazy now...) what is right and what is wrong. (Excluding those who are mentally ill, or those who have seared theirs of course...)