helping god

[Allforhim]

I want to help you people to see the light and to see His need to have you back in His arms. God needs all of us to be complete. We are part of him and need to get back to him.

Even some Christians dont realize that god also has needs, and he needs us.

Please tell me what you need to find god again and i want to help

[xcept2010]

They want a Christian to prove miracles happen. They want evidence of God in a tangible form.

What they don't want is God to show them He exists because that would likely be the form of something scary. As in life-changing scary.

What they also do not understand is if miracles happened to each person each day they wouldn't be miraculous any longer, they would be part of life.

Most people truly miss out on the miracles God performs in our lives daily. Nothing short of amazing.

[steenkh]

Originally Posted by xcept2010

They want a Christian to prove miracles happen. They want evidence of God in a tangible form.

Or just evidence that has no other explanation. It would be no good to have experienced God and then afterwards find out that it was just a surgeon that had fiddled with electrodes in my brain.

What they don't want is God to show them He exists because that would likely be the form of something scary. As in life-changing scary.

Credible evidence is credible evidence. It does not really matter if it is scary or nice. Sure, I could imagine all sorts of nice gods that I would prefer evidence for, but if the only evidence is for an evil god, then that would be the god I would have to believe in.

What they also do not understand is if miracles happened to each person each day they wouldn't be miraculous any longer, they would be part of life.

Nonsense. As long as the only explanation for the miracles would be a religious one, then it would not matter if the miracles happened once a century or every second: they would still count as evidence. If God lived among us and zapped whoever he wished, called a Flood, or tore down tall buildings, he would be part of our lives, but he would still be a miraculous god, and we would have every reason to believe in him.

Most people truly miss out on the miracles God performs in our lives daily. Nothing short of amazing.

The amazing part is that miracles are so rare that believers will have to call ordinary stuff 'miracles' in order to ever experience them.

[xcept2010]

Originally Posted by steenkh

Or just evidence that has no other explanation. It would be no good to have experienced God and then afterwards find out that it was just a surgeon that had fiddled with electrodes in my brain.

the anti-Christ will perform miracles. Which means you will worship him.

Originally Posted by steenkh

Credible evidence is credible evidence. It does not really matter if it is scary or nice. Sure, I could imagine all sorts of nice gods that I would prefer evidence for, but if the only evidence is for an evil god, then that would be the god I would have to believe in.

yes once again, without discernment and a clear understanding of the Bible, you will worship satan, the beast and the anti-christ. The unholy trinity, as they will fulfill these criteria.

Originally Posted by steenkh

Nonsense. As long as the only explanation for the miracles would be a religious one, then it would not matter if the miracles happened once a century or every second: they would still count as evidence. If God lived among us and zapped whoever he wished, called a Flood, or tore down tall buildings, he would be part of our lives, but he would still be a miraculous god, and we would have every reason to believe in him.

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Again, without the truth of the Bible you will fall for many things including worshipping the false prophet who will bring forth destruction upon the earth.

Originally Posted by steenkh

The amazing part is that miracles are so rare that believers will have to call ordinary stuff 'miracles' in order to ever experience them.

Yes perhaps! I have heard such a saying as "the miracle of birth" being thrown around. I think when you were born they should've been saying "the miracle of birth-control" lol j/k.
Maybe go read the end of revelation to see how the masses were fooled into believing in the anti-Christ. Might be of help to you.

[steenkh]

Originally Posted by xcept2010

the anti-Christ will perform miracles. Which means you will worship him.

If he is strong enough, I'll worship him, just like I will grovel and beg whenever somebody holds a gun to my head. In these situations it does not really matter if there are good guys who are stronger if they are not around to help!

yes once again, without discernment and a clear understanding of the Bible, you will worship satan, the beast and the anti-christ. The unholy trinity, as they will fulfill these criteria.

OK. If there is credible evidence for them, I'll do whatever it takes.

Again, without the truth of the Bible you will fall for many things including worshipping the false prophet who will bring forth destruction upon the earth.

Well, when you bring the credible evidence for all your gods, angels, Satan, false and true prophets, then we can take up that discussion.

Maybe go read the end of revelation to see how the masses were fooled into believing in the anti-Christ. Might be of help to you.

Not really. Like the rest of the Bible, it is full of claims, and void of credibility.

[Hugoneus]

Originally Posted by xcept2010

the anti-Christ will perform miracles. Which means you will worship him.

yes once again, without discernment and a clear understanding of the Bible, you will worship satan, the beast and the anti-christ. The unholy trinity, as they will fulfill these criteria.

here
Again, without the truth of the Bible you will fall for many things including worshipping the false prophet who will bring forth destruction upon the earth.


Yes perhaps! I have heard such a saying as "the miracle of birth" being thrown around. I think when you were born they should've been saying "the miracle of birth-control" lol j/k.
Maybe go read the end of revelation to see how the masses were fooled into believing in the anti-Christ. Might be of help to you.

So whats the problem?

If the anti-Christ is indeed powerful enough to take over, sure I will worship him. The same way I would be forced to worship any powerful entity threatening my life.

Plus, if he is all that powerful as you suggest, he will fool you anyway, and you will fall at his feet calling him lord!

You stand no chance.

[Hithesh]

Originally Posted by xcept2010

They want a Christian to prove miracles happen. They want evidence of God in a tangible form.

What they don't want is God to show them He exists because that would likely be the form of something scary. As in life-changing scary.

What they also do not understand is if miracles happened to each person each day they wouldn't be miraculous any longer, they would be part of life.

Most people truly miss out on the miracles God performs in our lives daily. Nothing short of amazing.

And you think you're God in the Flesh, so who's worse?

[xcept2010]

Originally Posted by Hithesh

And you think you're God in the Flesh, so who's worse?

Yeah. Okay. And where did you come up with this one?

Sarcasm in the flesh perhaps.

[Martin]

Originally Posted by xcept2010

Sarcasm in the flesh perhaps.

That would explain why "the flesh" is "sarka" in the Greek Bibles.

Romans 1:3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;

Romans 1:3 peri tou uiou autou tou genomenou ek spermatos Dauid kata sarka,

[mattwilson]

Originally Posted by peteresther

Oh I wish I knew what was going on! Hithesh? Perhaps I am just not deep enough. This is like those cryptic crossword puzzles maybe, because those I cannot do!

I think the dude's jacking up on an hourly basis and has more to do with the chemicals in his cortex than any form of deep philosophy.